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fauxpaws

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Okay, this may create a MIX response (but let's respect each others opinions and be kind). I was reading a Veterinarian journal and saw that states were looking into an inspection type license.

 

I am all for it, here is why: First, I am a clean freak, second, there are two many viruses that are airborne. But, I am absoutely FRUSTERATED with grooming shops that practice the "why clean, it will only get dirty tomorrow". I have toured many shops in my area and am disgusted that people would actually take their pets there... Hell, I wouldn't even sit down let alone leave my precious Gracy Rose. How do y'all feel about this?


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OH BOY, OSHA. PLEASE DON'T INVOVLE ME. I WILL TALK FOR HOURS.

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I don't know enough about OSHA - gotta go google, I am however, a supporter of Liscensing...  I just don't like someone telling me I HAVE to be Liscensed, I certainly understand why, and I support a standard of cleanliness but, some people are really dirty even in their own homes..  maybe they are the best at "grooming", and need a structure to follow for a hired cleaner to do the job..  who knows, but that, if it was in place would really raise the standards across the board...  But how do they keep up on the inspections?  I think if this happens, then the phone number should be mandatory to post in the grooming salons, and if the store is dirty - stinkin like urine and feces days old, then the "client" has a number to call and place a formal complaint..  This is major, as we don't have a place to send the complaints specific with our industry.

 

I think this is equally as important as liscensing..  But it's a big world out there, and well..  seems like a pretty big hill to climb..


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I am unsure what this would be about.  Any business with employees is subject to an OSHA inspection right now.  They do not need anything special to inspect your business.  You should be prepared for an OSHA inspection anyway.  Do you have the MSDS on all chemicals in your business?  Do you have and use hearing protection around any loud equipment?  Do you have protection in the wet areas against slip and falls? 

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What if you don't have employees - Nothing listed is mandatory..


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licensing  YES.. OSHA HECK NO, NO, NO!!!!   "OSHA"  has allot to do with safety... human safety, they know nothing about animals... in my area the local "animal control officers"  are the ones that do the inspections,, they KNOW animals and cleanliness, and animal safety.....  keep the people that KNOW about animals in control of inspections...

keep the government OUT  of our businesses

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Sandy Paws - Yes, OSHA is all about human safety.  That is why I am confused on how they would be involved with any licensing of the pet industry. 

 

Valley Groomer - I do not believe that OSHA has any involvement with a business that has no employees or contractors.  Check out there website http://www.osha.gov to see and check with your states labor board. 

 

In Indiana if you have one employee you must comply with all OSHA standards.  Here is the code from Indiana:

 

"Each employer shall establish and maintain conditions of work which are reasonably safe and healthful for employees and free from recognized hazards that are causing or likely to cause death or serious physical harm to employees. The Act further requires that employers comply with the Occupational Safety and Health Standards, Rules and Regulations."

 

The most common cited issues in our industry is:

 

1.  Failure to have MSDS on products and a plan

2.  Occupational noise exposure

3.  Wiring methods, components, and equipment for general use

4.  Portable fire extinguishers

 

There are "breaks" given for business with fewer than 10 employees which gets you away from having certain plans and training documentation.

 

In our area the only reason you get an OSHA visit is because someone called in a complaint.  Usually an ex-employee or another business.  OSHA is pretty good about handling complaints from ex-employees and the like, they will not visit unless the employee goes on record with the complaint.  They will send a letter and ask if the problem has been fixed.

 

While I understand the concern when OSHA is mentioned, I try to have all my businesses up to code on all aspects (OSHA, Local, Fire Department). 

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OSHA must not apply to DC because I just read their website, and therre are no participating companies listed under DC.  I do however wish to speak with you in private.  Is this possible - I have a question, but wish not to type it for general veiw.


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If you are talking to me...... You are welcome to contact me.  indianabc@hotmail.com

 

 

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Baltimore/Washington, D.C. OSHA office

1099 Winterson Rd

Suite 140

Linthicum, Md. 21090-2218

(410) 865-2055.

 

This information is a little old, but I would think it is still valid.

 

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yes, sandy... but if you have employees that's what OSHA is concerned about... NOT the dogs...

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yes but that is ALL they are concerned with and have no knowledge of the PETS...  and we are a pet related job... 

so what you are  saying is we need to be

#1 licened  by the federal government

#2 inspected by OSHA

#3 inspected by local animalcontrol

#4 inspected by the state government

#5 get a "CMG"

 

this  is one reason i think we should  govern OURSELVES


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I am saying that currently in Indiana to be in a business with employees you are subject to OSHA inspections which is how this thread started.

 

To have a business you have certain rules that you have to play by.  I don't have a problem with the rules and try to stay by the book.  I understand the book- i.e. with OSHA they are trying to make sure that the employees of the business are safe, with animal control they want to make sure that the animals are safe, and so on.  Would I like less government - absolutely.  Would I get rid of OSHA inspections, fire inspections, or animal inspections - no.  I know of businesses that would have fire hazards, unsafe working conditions, and the like if they never had anyone to answer to.  Take a look at the thread about the groomer that is in jail.  Would that situation be the same if that shop was inspected on a regular basis?  There are worse businesses to have as well, gas stations have EPA inspections in addition to all the others, restaurants have Board of Health and so on.

 

I would like government to be more efficient which would mean less government.  How about training Fire Inspectors to OSHA standards so they could do both with one person at one time?  I am a huge fan of more efficient government.

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"indian"...  exactly!!!  i guess that is what i was trying to say..  i dont mind getting inspected  and having rules..... but when our federal government gets control of things,, it can really be a BAD thing sometimes for us little guys...  lets govern ourselves,,, 


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We are subject to OSHA for employees but not for pets. If you are a grooming center with IC then you don't have employees.


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